some of us are keeping track of our cutting and coping tools for it on the thread - heres to doing it together - in the self injury message boards those coping tools come in real handy for my suicidal thoughts too. having thoughts of suicide IS having thoughts and urges of self harm so feel free to keep track along with us on that thread. I ask everyone that is joining that thread that you keep the posts at the positive point of view of fighting it and positive coping tools in other words no posting actions/plans for actually committing suicide while posting and vents that could trigger others who are coming to the thread just to read the coping tools but cant (or don't want to) read the down side of it without engaging in the cutting and suicide actions. There is another thread in the self injury called - venting about cutting. Feel free to use that when needing to vent on your suicidal urges its marked by trigger Icon and the word cutting in the title subject line is there so others know it may contain graphics and can read or not at their safety. Take care.