Thank you for sharing your experience. It is ALWAYS helpful to hear someone's experience; I appreciate it. Research goes only so far. I don't know but will ask about the varicose starting out as spider, I just cannot remember. Fortunately these are minor compared to the spider. I've had a lot of hormone treatments over the years, jobs that require long hours sitting and traveling/sitting. It's a good question and will definitely ask. I am trying to get myself psyched up for all the needlesticks, as they said, they can do the spider veins even during the initial appointment sometimes. Eeks, so trying to be prepared if go this route. It would be nice on one hand not to have a road map on the back of my legs anymore. LOL.