i think you're right. I shouldn't be forceful. There are other people i like as well. I have given him enough information about my feelings for him to make a choice. He may not have made one yet, but he will. "The ball is in his court" Men like it like that anyway. And, true, it is nice to share, and nice to both have a go at putting in. Rather than having something just "fall in your lap". Thanks LMO. I was thinking of turning up at his house, or asking if i can come over. Your advice has made me change my mind. Thankyou