I am amazed that people think life was fine before 9/10/01, never in human history have things been clearly right or wrong. It depends on your viewpoint thats all. In WWII We put Asians, and Italians into internment camps but worked along side the Germans. The Cathlics persecuted millions and tortured thousands. In Africa there was genocide based on race. In Bosnia a City where three cultures had live side by side for years started killing each other. For thousands of years people have killed each other over a peice of land, each claiming it belongs to them alone. The Romans took over hundreds of countries and made each a slave to Rome, and called it democracy. I'm sure when the Roman way of life was falling, the Romans were scared of the "terrorists" that were changing their safe world. It is becuse of history that I fear humans more than any other thing on this planet. It is because of history I do not like violence, Bin Laden is not the frist, will not be the last, until we can set aside hate, and yes fear, we will not change. I try to work on my fear. All I can say is that at least I find no cause for celabration in a human death by violence. Even though he lived by violence. I find it telling that in his will he asked his children not to take up his way of life. Gandhi did not start out so great, he beat his wife, but he learned, he became great. As long as a person is alive I want to believe they hve the change to change, stop hating that which is different, or richer, smarter, and as long as I live I shall try to let go my fear. I hope this is not too poltical, I just find it hard to beleive that 9/10 was so much better than the days after 9/11. This entire thread has made me think, and forced me to face the reality that my fear, is just as bad as those who hate. I forget which person posted the link to the mindfulness site, but I to read that, it is part of what made me rethink my post. I still do not like violence, but I need to work on my fear and own it as a huge flaw. Peace