thanks, otc sleep aids don't work for me and actually give me insomnia! I tried tylenol pm for awhile when the arthritis was keeping me awake, seemed like the perfect solution. the first dose worked but any subsequent tries to take it (not on consecutive nights, i was only taking it once in a while when i felt i needed it) it gave me severe insomnia, but still made me sleepy. an awful experience because even with the not sleeping my eyelids were literally so heavy that i could not even watch tv or anything once i realized i was not sleeping. so there was nothing i oculd do but lie in bed annoyed at not sleeping even though i was so sleepy.

odd, hey? but i guess if anyone would understand odd reactions to drugs it would be the people here any other otc aid i've tried has had the same effect.

the tea is a touchy issue for me but maybe it is something worth trying again. i'm not sure it would work because the insomnia is obviously medicine induced and is very intense... it's not like i feel on the verge of sleep, i think i'd need something very strong to counteract this. but i thinkit would be a very good idea to try though. i may have some in the house if not i'll have to put it on my list.

the reason i say it is a "touchy issue" is a bit strange as well. I have discovered i am VERY sensitive to caffiene. took me some time to realize years ago that even a small soda or iced tea very early in the day would keep me up at night. over the past 6 months this became a problem again so i once again cut ALL caffiene out of my diet (except for occasional chocolate, who could resist?)

now of course i know that herbal teas like sleepytime to not contain caffiene, but it has gotten so bad for me that it is a psychological thing for me now. I've definately had periods where decaffinated coffee has kept me up at night, strictly because my body says "coffee? well WE'RE not going to sleep!" so i usually stay away from that as well. however i think that wouldn't be an issue it i pay attention and try some herbal tea now. thanks for the suggestion.

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