(((((((((zoo)))))))))) I don't have many words or good advice either......but just want to reassure you you aren't hopeless OR beyond help. You are still trying, aren't you.....and T is still trying, isn't she? You are not beyond hope or help......but I understand the feeling, I have felt that way, I DO feel that way sometimes, that I am too much rooted in my BPD too, plus the bipolar......but that's a distortion and not true. My T is not DBT......but doesn't find me a hopeless cause either, she says I have come such a long way, but it's hard for me to see it. Nonetheless, I choose to believe the positive......I hope you can find some positive to hold on to, to choose to believe in.....