Shoot... I just spent a really long time writing a loooong reply to include everyone and thank you for the responses and how what you all wrote was helpful. It somehow dissapeared. psychcentral gremlins? you know how after you write a long term paper and the hard drive crashes and you don't have a back up and you simply have to get away from it for a while? Yeah. gotta run. Love to you all. Thanks for the advice. Better go buy some coffee now.