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Originally Posted by Open Eyes
Hi Hazel, there is some good advice here and you are right, abuse doesn't always mean physical. I know you havent seen a therapist about this but there is another option. I had received really good counciling from a family councelor at a church.
I was not even a member of that church. I can't remember wether I paid for that service or not but this coucelor pointed out so many things that I just didn't see.
I agree that there are some red flags in your relationship and definitely red flags where the children are concerned and as I listen to people who are struggling they often describe being raised in a situation exactly what you are describing. And I think your gut is telling you that.
Now you said your current husband was in the military, did he serve in any active duty? If he did he could have symtoms of PTSD and that could include the anger towards you and even your daughter as well as the medication he is taking for anxiety issues. The other red flag is that he could only have surpervised visits with another child he had, they don't order that for no reason Hazel, um red flag.
And your right, he is not treating your daughter well at all and that can and will effect her the longer it is allowed to continue. You are living with a possible tyrant and look at you, you are afraid to make waves or counter his behavior with creating boundary lines that stick and he respects. And the amount of communication between you and the current husband is on a grade level of POOR. And his son is your son too, do you want your son to grow up thinking that this is acceptable behavior? Your son will treat others the same as he will learn that it is not only accepted but that he will gain by that bad behavior.
Are you in a mess, well yes, the communication and relationship is deteriorating if there is really much of a relationship at all. And the statement that your working extra to make up for the bills inconveniencing him? Well, than there is another option, he go out and get another job and you stay home. And his spending habits are another bad sign, he is not being responsible and he is acting like HE IS THE ONE THAT IS THE ALL MIGHTY DECISION MAKER, and THE DECISIONS HE IS MAKING ARE NOT HEALTHY ONES.
When someone is afraid to express their feelings with a spouse and sit down and set real boundaries and boundaries are always crossed than, yes, you are in an abusive relationship and those have a way of getting worse not better.
Check into family counceling services and see if you can get some advice. And most important start a journal where you can keep track of his behaviors. Even if you have to start a thread here and add to it so that it is not a book or record that he can find and the abuse could get physical.
Think about my questions. What is his history? What is he being treated for?
Has he served in active duty? Remember he must have gone through a lot of disciplinary training, is he using that in your home is he running you and your children in a boot camp? These are just some questions that you need to address, also, DOES HE DRINK or ABUSE ALCOHOL even just once a week?
Open Eyes
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All good points. I don't know if I would feel comfortable about getting counseling from a church member though. I am not religious and feel as though I will be judged and persuaded to stay because most religious people don't believe in divorce. That is probably stereotypical but it is what I have been around. We actually got premarital counseling before we got married and the Pastor basically asked why we were getting married. We said because we loved each other and he said we should be fine. He showed us this little diagram thing where we shouldn't talk to each other outside of the lines. Like don't talk to your spouse like a child. Then he left.
I had a journal when I first got into a relationship with him and he said he didn't like it and that I couldn't have one because all I would do is talk bad about him in it. Of course, I said "okay" and stopped keeping one. I tried to start one on a website I found so he wouldn't be able to access it but I couldn't figure out how to save the thing without paying for a subscription to the site. I do like to journal though. It helps me clear my head. I believe if my husband seen this posting alone though he would probably get angry and might even suggest a divorce.
He did grow up in a home of abuse from his mother, step father, and older brother. I told him he should not want his children being raised the way he was. His mother watched my daughter before our son was born and she was acting up when they were driving to her house from somewhere. The woman made my daughter get out of the car and walk beside the car down the dirt road. Is it just me or is that really messed up? I no longer let either one of my children see her. I was also raised in a similar situation. My dad was an alcoholic and went on rages of pulling the phone out of the wall and breaking stuff. My mom and me didn't have the best relationship and was often physically violent with me. My mom stayed with my dad for 20 years until he passed away. They both cheated on each other throughout the relationship.
My husband was an alcoholic and hooked on prescription pills when we first got together and I was able to get him off of them or at least to the ones he was prescribed only. He no longer drinks. Even if I have a glass of wine he refuses one. He is on medication for back pain (construction accident when he was younger), depression, and anxiety. He should be on blood pressure medicine and testosterone but we can't afford them. I am on an antidepressant and asthma medication. I believe the depression is only made worse by me being overweight and inactive and feeling like I am going nuts in my relationship.
I would have to research the PTSD because he has told me once that when he was in the military he accidentally shot and killed one of his best friends in combat training (if I remember correctly). He was active duty but he went mental and AWOL and got dishonorably discharged. He does often times give orders to the children and me like we are in the military. He had another child that he raised for 6 years and then found out that it wasn't his. He carried on a relationship with the boy for a while and then the mother had the boy calling someone else daddy so my husband kind of gave up on spending time with the child. He says that after he has "lost" both of his children, if he losses this one (our son) for any reason, he is going to shoot himself. That he apparently wasn't meant to have kids. Him saying that makes me scared to leave.
I find myself wondering how I got here. How I let this life be okay for me or my children. There are things that he has said and done that I would have never stood for before. He one time told my daughter he was going to knock my daughter's teeth down her throat. I got angry and told him to never say stuff like that again. He said he wasn't really going to do it, he was just trying to scare her. He says the children should be scared of him so they will listen. He says things similar to that now but for some reason I let them slide and I know it is not okay.
He said that he is not getting a second job because his job is more important than mine. He said that if he falls asleep at work he will hurt someone (he is a grader operator) but if I fall asleep nothing will happen (I am an assistant secretary). We both work 4, 10 hour days while our children sit in daycare the whole time. I handle the finances but he spends the money. He will go to the store to get one thing and come home with twelve. He doesn't care if I spend money but I don't because I would rather use it to pay a bill. We are behind in our mortgage, electric bill, water bill, and our children's health insurance. We let our car go back because we couldn't afford it anymore. The babysitter our children were going to hit our son so we had to move them and the cost went up by $500.00 a month. We have no savings and if I do tell him I have money he figures out how to spend it so I have started to hide it from him. Don't get me wrong I give into his spending. He will want something and if I tell him no we don't have the money he gets mad at me and throws a fit so I end up letting him get it. When we don't have enough money for bills I say screw it...he gets what he wants so I might as well go by myself a magazine or a bottle of nail polish. When we first got together we used to spend money like crazy. That is one of the things we enjoyed doing together. Shopping. When we bought a house and had another child to take care of I tried to get serious about things but he doesn't seem to be one the same page. I have tried sitting down and showing him the bills we have to pay and how much money we make and he says he is going to strap down but then he falls off the wagon.
Every time I try to tell him how I feel or why I am mad, he gets upset and somehow twists things around to make me feel like I am wrong for being upset or that I am overreacting or that it is my fault.
I feel like maybe my marriage isn't worth saving but then I think that maybe if I just hang in there and try to get us help for everything he will change. What if I shouldn't give up on him?