thanks flooded for the response, i dont want people to think im rousing on them like naughty children, this is as much a reminder to myself as to anyone else. I think its just good to open it up for discussion, especially in a community where many are feeling particularly unwell or fragile at the time they are posting. It takes alot of love and understanding to make a place like psych central work.
(and a big thankyou as always to doc john and our team of moderators!)