Went to the doctor this afternoon and found out 2 things .It is possible I have Arther in the 5 disk in my spine He put me on medaction to help with inflowmation to see it that helps ,He also told me it could be gences, And come back in a month. Now I think I am getting some where on this all spine thing . I 'm going down tomorrow and get the medication filled and wait to see if it helps my pain any. I am trying to stay postive on this but it has been hard becouse it has been tests after tests and doctor after doctor . Now I'm playing the waiting game on the medcation. Something has to work at some point,I 'm about to give up on them trying to find this out. just thought everyone would like to know the update. If it is Arther I never thought I would get it at my age, I have dealt with all lot of things in my life this would be just a nother one to deal with. I just hope this is something they can treat and relive some of my pain. I thank you all for your help on this and I know I'm not alone on this one .I'll keep you updated as it on folds.