(((((Ygrec23)))))Well there are lots of posts here that are very informative and food for thought.

When I posted I was thinking more about the PC members that are really struggling with their issues and as JD puts it, one cannot tend any other garden before they learn how to tend their own.

And as far as the younger crowd goes, some may be strong enough to make efforts in a substancial way and some may not have that capacity at the moment, I certainly wouldn't want to add any more sense of duty to someone who may be struggling just to hang onto wanting to keep attemping life itself, never mind looking at everything else.

I was thinking more on a level where people in PC are struggling and making a basic attempt to meet others on a global basis and work together inspite of the goeings on in the world that are something these people truely cannot deal with at the moment.

I am certainly not going to make any efforts to throw someone in the deep end of a pool when they are only just capable of wading at the moment. Though I see the intellectual depths and sense of a strong desire to contribute on a higher level in this thread, well, my hat goes off to you. But I do know where I am in this conversation, a place where people are really struggling, just with their own gardens.

Ygrec, I understand your original question in this thread and where we are, and the more I learn about you the more impressed I am. You amaze me at how much you put forth not only efforts to find ways to communicate your obvious intelligence, but you honestly care about finding ways to reach out to others that is productive. And now I find that you are caring for a wife with alzheimers too? God bless you is all I can say to that. And as I see you still try to keep abreast of the goeings on in this world as well, well, I couldn't really expect any more of you. However what I admire about you is that you continue to want to give more of yourself and think about others.

Madisgram, your always impressing me, what can I say? I already think you are rich in quality and then I see something even richer there.

Byz, you always give me much food for thought as even though I struggle you can tease my intellect and that really helps.

Venus, it sounds like you had a reality check this summer, good for you, your already pretty enough, don't worry about that, and I like to see that you have found some comfort where you are and a bigger appetite to once again ponder positive imput and direction.

Personally there are some really nice people in PC, right now I would like to see them get on their feet and even though theres so much going on, I would like to see them first find strength to tend their own gardens, so to speak.

Open Eyes