I know what they're capable of. I can even make excuses for others, to a degree that might surprise you, because I can't know all the circumstances that led to their actions; but for myself, I can find no excuses, I know the circumstances.

3rd times, for your parts that are vulnerable, compliant, wounded, or hurt; that's not what I am refering to though.

oh and earthMom - about this >> There are no god nor devils
I absolutely disagree. What a dangerous assertion that is. besides we are talking about people. now don't go hijacking my thread , you can PM me if you want.