Sorry, Ygrec, I guess I did a bad job of hiding what I DIDN'T want to say, and a bad job of showcasing what I DID want to say! Just another day in hanksteritaville. BTW, my T loves wikipedia, FWIW! You can't blame women for it, though - it's a men's club - article earlier this year in nytimes about whose updates "stick", very interesting.