I agree; it is the arguments which can arise. Also, the presentation of religious/spiritual systems of belief and thought can really become offensive to some, and it is a form of proselytizing when definitions of terms become presentations of thought. "No religious talk" is a hard one to pin down, because we all have some or no beliefs. Talk of secular humanism, buddhism, new age practices, etc., is "religious", I agree here with J.D.'s point on the matter. For some, their personal beliefs define them, for others this is dialogue. I'm all for intellectual dialogue, but I do see how the moderators/administrators must have guidelines to keep the peace.