For the life of me those thoughts never entered my mind. But I have wondered why people would follow certain cult type leaders, that has indeed been around for a long time. I had my daughter with a male horse/rider trainer once and he displayed very odd behavior to me. There was another trainer that was very popular and there were a lot of wealthy women that went with this other trainer, but their husband's were there too. (Both trainers were straight by the way) The other trainer was a blonde irishman with an accent and he was of a charming sort. But the trainer my daughter had was so jealous of that other trainer. And that is all he would talk about is that other trainer and somehow beating him in the competitions. And my daughters pony beat one of the other trainer's top ponies and my daughter's trainer completely embarrassed me by needing to rub it in the other trainer's face. I noticed that he took every opportunity to do so, and the other trainer never was anything but curtious and he just could not understand why my daughter's trainer disliked him so much. And I have to say that it truely not only embarrassed me but it got down right sickening. Ofcourse I eventually took my daughters horse and left this trainer with his jealous childish behavior and he was the same one that I reported for child abuse because that was really the reason I left. But I didn't go to the irish trainer, although I am sure he would have accomodated me. I went somewhere else where I could be away from that whole scenario, even then the trainer I left stalked us at horse shows and did other things that were not nice at all.

But one day the irish man and I had a very brief chat because he did notice the stalking, all the trainers did, and in our brief conversation he asked me why my old trainer hated him so much as they barely knew each other. My reply was that he was just very jealous, and that was the truth. And now that I look at that list, that trainer I left had every personality trait on that list.

But of the two men, they both had people that blindly followed them. I was the only one that walked away from both of them. And both groups of people wondered why I had the courage to walk away from one and why didn't I go to the other, it was bazaar.

No, I don't like cliques and I don't like people who fixate with some kind of sick jealousy either. But people do hang together that way, I just never did.

And that petty crap, really turns me OFF.

And I noticed people do that, especially men, I wonder why because it is such a turn off. And the men that do that are really shallow and stupid, it is such a waste of energy to me, kinda like war is, yeah men are the ones that start wars too, and wars are so wasteful too. Must be some kind of very primitive ape like behavior that never progressed somehow.

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