I guess that's where I've been lucky- ex didn't really take anything at all (altho I know he's entitiled to 1/2...hope things don't turn too messy) as everyone round him helped him out and gave him stuff, right down to cutlery and salt and pepper shakers. He took a few ornamnens and photos, a couple which I really miss i.e. the giant photo of the 2 girls, and I don't know for sure on the 'ownership' of one ornament...he said g'ma gave it to him but I dispute that... My advise to you on getting together to do stuff together is don't- from my Sat experience. No2 became hysterical for her sis, i phoned and they were shopping. I asked if i could meet them, as no2 was soo hysterical. Met them, then was invited to tea. Wat gets me sooooooooo mad now is that he has told cps that i was not invited for tea...like i would have gone otherwise... he asked me before he got the sausages, like i told no1s caregivers why else would he have bought the size sausage pack that he did. Yes, I'm mad (yeah, yeah, in more ways than 1!!). Where does lying get him, except to make him look even better than me... and it's working... I'm gonna go and mow the lawns now and stop my ranting and raving, and maybe burn off this anger!! TC (you get the idea!!!)