1. that is a good description of how my mother always communicated - always some underlying meaning or message, what somebody "really" meant by what they said - you could never just say what you mean, and mean what you say; so exhausting! so glad not to be doing that anymore!
2. elan vital's article yesterday on recovery was helpful for me feeling like a hopeless case! kinda helped me see how far I really have come, how what I am doing is coping and living - reframing my life situation, I think is how 3rd times would phrase it!
3. i'm sorry, I wasn't trying to say it didn't matter how t felt towards us, or how anybody felt towards us, and that is terrible about how people are demanding such a high price for their so-called friendship - not even terrible, maybe just bizarre. but I was trying to say something about whether t is warm or cold - but then you posted about t's mother, and I think you really did touch her, but she was just trying to not let her own emotions (about her mother) interfere too much. I hope people's posts on here are helping you? I have found it easier to be with people IRL the better I learn to get along with people on PC.