I haven't read the whole thread, but I understand what you meant with your 1st post Venus. I believe good can come out of bad experiences, so there's deep learning and soul searching when a person reaches their low point. Some even find their creative side, like my brother who was very artistic and did his best work when he was low.

With circumstantial depression, these low points sometime spur change so the person can climb out the constraints that are causing these dark feelings. One example of someone who had a positive outcome from his depression is Eckhart Tolle who wrote the famous book - if it wasn't for his dark depression he probably wouldn't have written this book. I don't think Venus was saying people enjoy suffering, but there are sometimes positive growth through bad experiences - the soul journey we all go through.