what I hear is, this is so far from what you were before SAWE, able to have this kind of communication, you are about done.

People don't go to a T in order to have nice chats. My experience in that room, for years now, is not one of nice chats. It has been pain, and confusion, involuntary revelations at way too deep a level, frustration, distrust, anger, bottomless shame, unbounded sadness, just about anything except that. We don't change just that fast; surely that's not possible. and I have no idea what we were talking ABOUT when she said it.