"I wasn't planning on talking about what the OP's intentions are here or even in life and I realize Open Eyes, you have good intentions. Its hard for any of us to wonder what are the intentions of everyone here, plus would we dare ask anyone else this? Just because someone has an less than pure label doesn't mean intentions are bad" ~quote Lynn P

Dare ask anyone else this? Sure why not? And as you mentioned Micheal is very capable of answering for himself. What is a "pure label"? I am not sure there is such a thing as a pure label as a matter of fact we are basically all unique so in that alone what is pure? However that statement is very important for all of us here to remember, "Just because someone has a less than pure label doesn't mean intentions are bad". As a matter of fact, I think about that all the time, all the time!

Actually I am glad I asked you that question Michael. It was very interesting to read what you learned and have yet to learn. The boundary concern, that is something you have in common with many Human Beings. That is a difficult area, but it is good that you are still expressing a desire to learn. I am sure that you have observed many members here working on that as well.

This forum is open to all members, therefore you will get a variety of replies. I find it an interesting topic as well.

"What activity presents that short spirt of brief satisfaction for you? This answer would reveal your true search of the answer to your question."

Ok, you did answer part of this question, saying satisfaction for you is unrelated to manipulation. I recall reading one of your posts that did talk about the short spirts of brief satisfaction, what percepatates that if not the result from manipulation (some do enjoy satisfaction from seeing manipulation work, even harmless manipulation).

Thank you for your response to my questions.


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