Excuse me for getting off topic for a bit. Wanted to explain myself by saying, I tend to stick up for issues/ people who I think aren't being treated fairly - such as certain religions, sexual orientation etc. We're aware there's a stigma that comes with mental illness, but there's a double stigma if you happen to be a narcissist, psychopath, anti social etc. People hear this and are more apt to assume the worst. I'm not fighting this OPer's battles for him because I know he can do this...but I don't even think he realizes the depth of prejudice that comes with this label...that's what I'm standing up for. Back to the topic of good VS bad manipulation.