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Originally Posted by Open Eyes
When was House diagnosed as a psychopath? I truely use caution when it comes to these weekly series presented for entertainment, it is obvious that many liberties are taken for shear entertainment purposes.
It is well known that drug abuse can present a very manipulative person, anything for that high, so to speak. And along with that House is quite the nonconformist and his manipulation is not really for evil self gain.
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He wasn't. And this isn't about psychopathy or any other mental disorder. Nons can manipulate just as much or as well as psychopaths. I'm focusing on the manipulative behaviour itself.
Are you suggesting that he's exempt from responsibility because he's a nonconformist drug-addict? Is it not still manipulation?
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He often has to manipulate because often he wants to access procedures and tests that don't meet with the guidelines for proper procedures.
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I haven't watched this show in awhile. But, in the seasons before he got shipped off to the psych ward, it was made pretty clear that his main motivation was the challenge of solving the puzzle. He never went to see patients or took cases that he thought were boring. He manipulated the patients and procedure in order to find out what was wrong, even if it risked hurting the patient or the hospital. He did start to become invested in most cases as the puzzle became more complex, but that isn't unlike my own obsessions with "the game".
Not to mention... he also manipulates people for s***s and giggles. He once told an adulterous woman and her boyfriend that she was a modern-day Virgin Mary just so he could win a bet. Cuddy quite appropriately remarked that he was "confusing good and evil again".
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And House does have feelings, however he uses a lot of methods to avoid exposing his emotionality.
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Again, that absolves him of guilt? If anything, he would be more guilty because he should know better.
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Originally Posted by stumpy
i find that speaking out & challenging others to think outside the "box" upsets people here...& somewhat outside pc...but speaking for here...i don;'t want or need cyber hugs..they don't help me when i am in need of support...
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I've noticed that too, especially in certain forums. Is it manipulation, or bad in any way, to disagree with someone? To challenge someone? Or simply to offer advice without pressing the
button? I think some people confuse disagreement as being unsupportive. But what's more unsupportive to the person than condoning behaviour and supporting thoughts that may be harmful to them?
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Some more thoughts from the television on manipulation...
http://vod.fxnetworks.com/watch/wilfred (Adult material. Profanities aren't censored.)
While the entire series involves a lot of manipulation (mostly on Wilfred's part),
Identity explores the consequences of manipulative behaviour and losing touch with one's moral values. And
Doubt is one giant mind-**** worthy of much applause.
I think it's interesting that Ryan experiences such backlash for his manipulative schemes, but Wilfred gets off scot-free again and again. Why is Wilfred seemingly free of responsibility? What does this say about our culture and how we view manipulative people?