You are looking at it from YOUR point of view. I understand that. But try putting yourself in the other person's shoes. He is asking you to restrain yourself, to respect his boundary. Why does that feel like he is taking something from you? IS that what it feels like, or what? Now it's the woman who won't take "no" for an answer. It just feels to me like the women are trying to impose their will on the men, and you're saying, what's the big deal, it's just a little kiss! Why doesn't "no mean no" for men, too? It's like we can't even make the argument for it without sounding like weak victims.

I GET IT! I have seen the men's forum and wanted to answer, because on my phone, I rarely notice what forum a thread is posted in, I either look at new posts or subscribed threads. And I think, well I know the answer to THAT, too bad they don't want to hear from me! But not everyone has been damaged in such a way as I have, that gender and boundaries are virtually meaningless. So I would be the first person to IGNORE these rules, which is why I'm looking for explanation, not defense? Because I don't know how to say no, or that I have a right to say no, in the first place. So when you say it's okay to intrude on my private space, it's scary to me. That's kinda what this is about to me. If you wanna listen at the door of the boys' locker room, fine; but do you yell THANK YOU! at the end?