Stumpy, elliemay, Lynn, and nice to meet you horseontheloose, welcome to PC.

You all have valid points and I hope you don't think I am abandoning your suggestions at all. I have actually utilized those ideas and actions in my past and they are what truely helped me survive. I definitely have gained some hope by reading your posts and how you have grown to not allow the issues you have to overcome your lives. It truely tells others that they can learn to do the same.

Lynn, the abuse forum can seem like some ruminate, I saw that more when I first came here. That is a hard call to be honest, and I tread lightly in that thread. I have to say that I really havent seen members ruminate too long in there, often they get stuck on some memories and I do think that when they get to a point where they can actually discuss the troubled memories, very few times do I see them NOT progress, but it is a slow process, and it really requires the help of a good therapist.

Sometimes members come here and they don't have a therapist, I was one of them, It took me a few months to find a therapist for what I have. So I often see that once a person gets to express their troubles here, I see a lot of growth. I have seen a lot of people truely progress in that abuse forum, and Shanna and others there are right there to offer support. Bill gave out a lot of tips on informational sites etc. and I learned so much from him. Once a member gets through the rumination aspect, they don't necessarily hang on to that, they grow and then I have seen them reach out to others. I don't really "NOW" see too many, if any, that just resign to rumination.