I understand all of this. I have not really ever fit in with my female cohorts. As with noncontra, I feel as though I am reasonably attractive if a bit overweight. I also feel that I am more assertive (maybe even aggressive), more outspoken, more interested in intellectual pursuits (uh, not to say that they're stupid), sports, and more geeky than my female counterparts. When you put my interests in studying to do well on my microbiology test next to, say, my coworkers desire to find the best happy hour special tonight, you can see how I may not fit in with this group of females. Sometimes I believe that some women just don't know how to take me. I'm a straight shooter and prefer not to sugar coat things as I know many women are prone to doing (which isn't necessarily bad). I tend to have a hard exterior despite a very sensitive heart. Yeah...most people don't know what to do with me, let alone women!