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Originally Posted by PurpleFlyingMonkeys
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I think the main difference is if you have plans or if you are just feeling that low. If you come online and post saying "I've had suicide thoughts lately, I get so down and I don't know how much more I can take. I don't know what to do. Don't want to do it but I have these thoughts" that vs the "I can't take it any more I'm going to do it! I can't take the stress I just want it to be over". Those are two completely different statements and mind sets. When you are in fact suicidal, there isn't much someone online untrained can do for you really. I've had others on chat before get on with the intent of doing that. It was as others said very difficult because when they are in that state of mind they are also much more reluctant to listen to what you have to say. But when you are just worried because you have been thinking about it lately, the support could be beneficial but either way these thoughts really need to be handled in person with a trained professional.
Many of us here at pc are very strong, we are very intelligent and the strongest emotional survivors around, but we have been beat. Many of us are just barely limping by trying to just make it through. When you get a lot of those in our state all discussing suicide and someone starts to mention why, then you have another member who is experiencing something similar and they start to think "well hey, that's going on with me too, it really isn't right... It is too much..." and the chain starts, triggers are everywhere. If not for that, just the idea, just the word sometimes can spark the idea in someone else.
I understand not wanting to hold it in, that's really difficult. But it really would be best in general to call a hotline or 911 or find a family or friend. With this new thread, suppose someone posts telling how hard things are, no one loves them etc and it takes 30 minutes for them to get their first reply, or a couple of hours if they even get one. That could cause the person to snap and follow through with their thoughts, calling a hotline or reaching out to someone you can get a response from directly and quickly would be the best in these situations.
The difference is I believe, if you are a threat to yourself or to triggering others to become threats to themselves that is the real issue. Suicide is no game, no joke as we know. It's not something that should be taken lightly in any sense even if it is for attention.
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I totally agree that it's not something to be taken lightly or as a game or joke, or for attention. I guess it's just since i have NO ONE, that here on PC is the only people i can goto. i called my T two days ago, and got no call back. I seek out some other options than 911, cause they all treat you worse than scum. so I just end up leaving them be, and a lot of times, I dont require a INSTANT reply or response. Sometimes its just waiting around for a response can keep me going. because I want to live, I just dont want to live like this.. and hurt like this.. so... if theres a possiblity that i might get a response that could help or give me something to try that I haven't found on my own or tried yet, that there is helping just within itself, because it causes me to wait.. and waiting is good.. atleast right now in my own life it is a good thing..
Also, the part about the chain reaction, that's very true. I've seen that quite a few times. but in that sense, that's why I think the forum would benifet either by having a board, or subboard under depression or sib, so that those who know they are like that, or are not in a place that would cause them to seek out the board to post on how they are feeling, would generally try not to go in to the board, unless they were in that state of mind, or healthy enough at the point to go and give adivice or help, or even just let others know that they are definantly not alone..
Thanks everyone who helped explaining things to me. I get it a lot more now.