
Jan 01, 2012, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ygrec23
Well, for starters, their families might be complaining that they weren't showing up at work all that regularly these days. Nor spending enough time with the kids playing computer games. Nor watching television with the spouse.
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If they complained of anything I guess it would have to be something to the effect that they didn't understand why so many people were trying to stop them from what they wanted to do.
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This reminded me of something I'd read before. It wasn't till I remembered it was by Ken Wilber that I was even able to search for it:
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Originally Posted by Ken Wilber
Although there are numerous important exceptions, the general consensus of the Western scientific community is that the 'Eastern' mind is regressive, primitive, or at best, just plain feeble, while the Eastern philosopher is apt to reply that Western scientific materialism represents the grossest form of illusion, ignorance, and spiritual deprivation. For example, Franz Alexander, representing a breed of Western investigation called psychoanalysis, states, 'The obvious similarities between schizophrenic regressions and the practices of Yoga and Zen merely indicate that the general trend in Oriental cultures is to withdraw into the self from an overbearingly difficult physical and social reality.' D. T. Suzuki, representing the Eastern approach, as if to reply, states, 'Scientific knowledge of the Self is not real knowledge... Self-knowledge is possible only... when scientists lay down all their gadgets of experimentation, and confess that they cannot continue their researches any further...'
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It's from The Spectrum of Consciousness. I just found a Google Books copy here.
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Q: What do we do before we're enlightened?
A: Cut wood, carry water.
Q: What do we do after we're enlightened?
A: Cut wood, carry water.
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