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Old Jan 05, 2012, 09:50 AM
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ok-- The Dont let the thread die

--- Last night before work i was rather pissed off

being informed that men are going to have to start wearing ties at work now.. I know i am a lady so what does it matter to me.

1) we signed a packet upon being hired to this job, that had a misc of crap and dress code was in part of this packet-- business casual, and no where in the discription did it have ties for men
2) If the Supervisor is changing things to her liking-- she needs to take the steps of approval from the corporation first and the process of us all signing a packet again.
3) I think it is really unfair that they are making the med change their attire and not the women (which is my fear to three)
4) i fear this is the start of the tyrant changing how we dress and the women will be told -- be prettier and wear skirts. (supervisor has told me with in my first year of working with this corp.- "please dress more feminine and less masculine"-- any woman out there been told that? I was enraged and hurt dearly by this and it was a major trigger for me.. I was wearing slacks and button up shirts-- so I took this as she wanted me show my boobs more or something- it hurt even more that i was wearing make up when she told me this-- i don't any more- there was a meeting to follow this)
5) The Upper Management and the other Male Managers that are higher than us at the desk- DO NOT WEAR TIES- They only wear ties if the COE is coming or the upper managers having a meeting with a new customer.

My lastly thing that angered probably more than anything was that when i was disputing on this that the dress code does not state that men have to wear ties and that process would need to be put in place-- i was told by my boyfriend to not take it so personally-- I am getting VERY tired of this line from him when I am making valid points and he is either 1) afraid of something or 2) disagrees. every time I get a little hiffy with the pointing out I get told I am taking it personally
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My Fears with this:
With Work:
1) If my supervisor does not go through the process/propper channels for this change, and it DOES happen-- She is basically given power to which I do not beleive she should have-- what else will be changing per this woman's discretion? Mind you in one dept- she changes process every WEEK no joke on that- I will not put up with that chaos
2) If it Is mandatory for women to wear skirts- I feel I am losing a part of me with individuality
With my Boyfriend
1) That he just is not validating my feelings and thoughts-- Oh that damn woman takes everything personally when it is not the case. It is something I am standing up for due to it is not right in my mind...

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Solutions:
Boyfriend with validation or whatever it is that is being missed for me:

Well I was rather pissy the first few hours of my shift, I did some work
The first matter of business is that I left the house depressed and still a bit angry with my boyfriend- so I did call and talk to him
I did tell him to please stop saying that "I take everything personally when I am not"; he agrued with me on how I was taking it personally due to I got a little pissy when he wanted to get a shirt out of the dresser and basically told me move and i threw my cloths on the bed-- I told him- he said I was taking it personally prior to that happening which just made me more mad and that is why that happened there- He did say a "sorry" but this I will need to come back and talk to him on later-- Boyfrined solution is to calm down, come back and talk--- we do this a lot... I will admit I should not have gotten so pissy but at the same time, I am making valid points to this and will stand up if needed to

My Fear with it all could just be a miss understanding with me- due to my boyfriend is not like woman take this all too much and emotional .. blah blah blah like some people on both sides do with the opposite.

Solution to work:
I relaxed after being pissy and realized- It is Not Happening yet-
Yeah I played a few things out in my head, but the main thing is - if it does get put into effect, and the process are not followed I will bring in my packet that I signed, including other paper work of dress codes that are posted in the manuals and else where.
I will propose that they do it correctly and if needed to have a meeting with upper management, this due to upper management I know has told how we dress now is ok due to the offshift people have to do the shipment/receipts/dock procedures, and more of the grunt work of the job.

If it does come down to I am told I have to wear a skirt- I will be looking into if this even "ok for them mandate" and if it is, I will dispute my cases with how inappropriate it will be for women to being wearing skirts (come on, down on the ground on your knees and bent over -- really, I think that is wrong)... And worse case- I will be asking for re-placement for this is ridiculous to me.

My Fear of losing my self/my individualism
I have worn skirts to work at times when I knew i would not be doing grunt work, it was by choice and knew i was not doing grunt work, and if grunt work came about (depending on the situation, just left it for the next day when I would be wearing pants, or asked for some help).

I am not sure what to do about the fear-- I know it may sound silly to some of you but i really think by telling me to wear a certain thing is wrong-- This ofcourse if it is a uniform of the business and that is what i knew when I signed up for it- that is different

I worked at this job for a full 4 years and going on my 5th (right or is the 5th and going on my 6th?) Any ways, I have been told the past 2 years there that I have dressed fine and ok and the way that they want with my regular things... so what ever.

but yeah... will wait and see with some things-- I did take about 6 hours and did work nicely and then did what i do sometimes as it is still slow there and joked with a few coworkers-
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