The motto where I went to HS was one that I actually took to heart pretty seriously - it was "a higher purpose than the self".

Zen, my problems with Sky had nothing to do with "hating" her or anything like that. It was that in every post she put up, even to people who were clearly struggling, she always made it seem that her own problems were so much more important than the rest of of us.

As we all know here, hurting has no description and the pain can have no boundaries.

I become highly suspicious when one becomes "dramatic" about one's suffering to the exclusion of everything else. No one here, it is obvious, "likes" to be in the pain we are/were in. We can ALL remember how horrible those dark days were. In some ways we all need nurturing - but when every single post is negative, rude and self-serving and always brings the question back to them I have a bit of a hard time understanding if the person in question is actually in pain or simply egotistical and enjoying the attention.

At what point do we stop being a listening ear trying to help and become an easily manipulated audience? Due to our own hearts and suffering, no one here wants to think that someone else may not be of the best motives, but I think we've all been taken for fools.

some of it's magic
some of it's tragic
but i had a good life all the way......
~jimmy buffett