Hi voidray, that first description makes some sense to me. Accept yourself as who you are at the moment, but hope to be a better you in increments in the future. I don't think we consider our own self-esteem in any objective way. Unless we practice narcissim, we usually do not build ourselves up as others might see our assets better than we do.

BLUEDOVE, sounds like a good reference...I'm a avid reader in the winter months, so will try to find this book in my library locally. thanks for the heads-up on it.

hugs, bj