I am sorry if I am chiming in to late, and if this has already been directed.... and if no one agrees or cares to read or i this is a dead subject thread. but I had read it earlier and was thinking on it.

The Why-- I have asked a lot of "WHY" questions in my life with mental illness (not only me but my family as well or their actions).. WHY..It comes down to - Some things just don't have an absolute answer- right? Or that is at least how I am coping right now with the really complex things that don't have a full blown answer- It does bother me at times with me being a problem solver with things.

And not everyone fits into nice little boxes (unless you talk of a coffin box, well then, we all can fit in one right?- sorry sick humor lately). But humans don't fit in nice little boxes that they fit into a subject for- we are all individuals and we all have different skills, views, morals, what not that make us- us. We could have two people of the same dx, but be different in ways; and one may not even experience what another does (lets take rapid cycling, mixed state, psychosis, mania for that manner, even depression is different for others).

I like a lot of what has been said on this thread, but what Venus Halley mentioned- The Data that is collected is not always "True" Due to it is us humans that provide it. I can see that and honestly say I can agree with it- It takes a person to remember everything, and to be fully honest and to speak up for the data to be true- I can honestly say I have not done that when I was seeing the Therapist and Pdoc- I DID Try best, but with some things are slip of the mind, or I counter attack it of - maybe it was not bipolar of that sort at that time- who knows

This may sound crazy - (it does to my boyfriend so I am sure to others it would too) but I wish at times, that I could just open up all my memories to a Doctor that I trusted to help me out, or for them to observe me for a length of time with out me knowing it-- OH Geez the extreme paranoid people I can hear you know, for my boyfriend (he is in that category so please don't thing I am poking fun) expressed the concern of this wish of mine, and that it was ridiculous for me to wish it and partially really dumb to .. I Can agree at times, but when I am of another mind of mine, I think it would be quiet beneficial for studies on the disease and for help.

Another thing- Repression of emotions - I have a family member that agrees our child hood was bad, however- I do believe he has repressed a lot of his memories with actions (Due to when we get on the subject he gets mad at me, and will for months- not just mad, enraged like I am trying to break/hurt him or what not, when I am not in all honesty I just wish he would let out some demons or at least acknowledge them- think that would help with getting better but what do I know- what works for one, does not work for another as well). This member of my family that I speak of is Full Blown Bipolar 1 and goes through manic episodes that can be really bad, and can have black outs. I am not totally agreeing with the theory of "repression (fear) = bipolar" but there is a link for all that are in total disagreement of it as well... No He does not repress his emotions of anger or others of the such- Don't mean to sound like an oxy moron here, but he has repressed childhood issues, but as an adult (even teenager) he didn;t and does not repress/suppress emotions/actions and so forth. and he needs to get into therapy for some more coping skills than what he has been doing, but that is a personal thing with an individual

Now with me, I am a "complex person" as that one psychologist said and I am not sure what the hell she meant and part of me takes it as offending and a complement
But I am told that I am biploar2, rapid cycle (perhaps mixed state at times) with Sever PTSD (which T put Borderline traits on me but the Pdocs did not; please heed the traits part on that). So where do people with rapid cycling, mixed state, not full blown Bipolar 1 (those to which do go into the height of mania), all fit in?

Who knows...

One Of The last time seeing my therapist before she booted me out (think I scared her and I am sorry and I feel awful about it), but she mentioned--- Maybe I should just be, stop thinking so much with my Dx's and just be---

As well as, in my hopelessness not too long ago- I told her-- There is no cure for a person like me... She reminded me that there is no cure for Diabetes BUT that people do manage their diabetes to keep living and I could do the same with my disease.

I don't mean to get off the subject but I have PTSD- The Pdoc that I saw at one time told me that- Even with that- PTSD_ They don't know a lot about that... and who knows, perhaps a lot could be touching/over lapping with other DX's.

I did enjoy this thread, and one of the main reasons is that it answered on of my own side questions-- How many people with Bipolar have not had a bad child hood.. For the few friends that I have that have a similar DX as me, bad child hoods but yet Bipolar.

Another last thing I would like to add- and again this is not a box thing but something that the first pdoc that I saw told me-- This was from a Pdoc btw- but that a lot of families (not all) that have a few bipolar dx members in the family, can be quiet chaotic.... Take that how you wish to-- Perhaps it was just for me for how I was raised, not sure.

The bottom line with all of is -
Please all take care of yourselves and try to better yourselves- that is with any or no dx of mental health by the way.

Be well