Sorry just had to weigh in here - suicide is morally neutral, it is neither "right" nor "wrong" and its not an indication of a character defect - when someones level of pain outweighs their coping resources this can lead to ideation and or active attempts of suicide.

nicoleb2 does not need whatever it is she has been brave enough to impart to us disparaged by insensitivity. This is not a personal attack on anyone it is simply a reminder which i recognize i don't always heed myself but as long as we all continue trying to maintain this place as safe then i guess thats what counts...

Just my two cents.