You know, Jan, your idea is the best one so far. I remember when I was a beautician, veins would pop in my fingers when I had a bottle to open that was really hard. It would itch like crazy when the vein popped and then I'd get a bruise. HURT!!! Ouchies! That would happen, too, when I'd smack one of my boys in the butt and hit the brads on their jeans. Itch, hurt, bruise! Talk about your "This hurts me more than it does you"!!