Not coddling it Lynn at all. I absolutey am against violence, in any form. I think trying to get someone to realize that they do indeed have the power to change is important. I don't believe that people with ASPD cannot change. It's a personality disorder, we have some control over that whether we want to take responsibility for it or not. It's still there.

I didn't address the violence directly because it's triggering. And there should be a trigger on this thread.

Ok now that said, thank you Lynn for bringing this up. Whether you feel empathy or anything at all violence is never right. I don't care whether or not anyone agrees with societies norms. No one has the right to inflict harm on another. Whether you try to justify it, reason it away or not, it isn't a right. The daughter clearly had nothing to do with this, bringing her into it is clearly irresponsible whether you have empathy or not. Driving someone off the road possibly killing them, or possibly blinding them is not something that can be justified. She is an ex, why not stop contact if you are not going to control yourself??