You're right, Open Eyes, there are probably an infinity of personal situations. I guess we can only learn from each other in small bits at a time. This small piece is relevant to me, that piece isn't. All marriages, all relationships are really different when you get down to specifics. And I'm sure yours is different from mine, though I do hope that in some way what I write about my situation can help you and perhaps even others.
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I can relate to that in some way Ygrec, I am changing every day myself as I am working through my PTSD. I have taken a journey back in my own life in a way I had never dreamed could happen, what my brain managed to do to adapt to a difficult environment. I don't think I had ever truely felt safe growing up. But children don't always understand that there is disfuction around them, they often just try to adapt to THEIR FAMILY somehow.
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I think you're absolutely right. Almost everyone grows up feeling that the way their family lives and relates together is "right." Is "normal." Though, of course, it may be absolutely wrong and abnormal or just plain pathological. I would think that we all try to adapt to our families, sad to say. That's how (to me, at least) pathology can be passed on from generation to generation.
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I can relate to the struggle with intimacy but for me it comes from abuse. I had trusted my husband and I did try in that department and between his alcoholism and cheating, he just broke my ability to trust. Between my childhood abuse and date rape and still trying and wanting to trust with my husband, well, he pushed me beyond my limit somehow. And though I am a very loving person, I have definite boundary issues now. And my husband tells me he loves me every day and he does try hard, but now I can only do so much. It is not that I am repulsed so much as I just can't get beyond being so hurt. And I have only brushed on that in therapy because I have had to work on so many other things.
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My own problems with intimacy stem from my early childhood and not from an adult-life situation such as you describe. Personally, I've found it very valuable indeed to try continually to separate out (1) what I learned as a child about how family members interact, and (2) the real, actual personality and formative experiences of my wife and the way she operates as a thinking, feeling adult person. One starts out in almost all cases, I'd guess, blending the two together; applying lessons learned from childhood to an adult situation to which they may not really relate. At some point of personal insight, whether in therapy or by oneself, one has to say to one's-self the old mantra: "That was then, this is now."
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Sometimes I just feel guilty that I cant just push all that history aside somehow, I keep telling myself he is good man and regrets and loves me, but I have not been able to turn off the way I just cant seem to be comfortable sharing beyond kisses and hugs now. I actually get ill just thinking about it right now in my life. I feel guilty for something I can't seem to help and I have to make peace with somehow knowing that I should be able to do what I need to feel safe at this point. IDK what the answer is. I can't just pretend it is a game or anything, been there done that and it is not an option for me now.
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History isn't something any of us can just erase. We can sometimes change our understanding of it, see it from a different point of view, learn more facts about it that alter what we think, but get rid of it? Never. And feelings? I think feelings are about as set in stone as the Pyramids of Egypt, as resistant to alteration as geometric proofs. Sometimes the feelings permit us to continue a relationship, sometimes not. But the same qualifications exist as with history: if we learn more and really absorb our new learning, if we turn a corner and suddenly see a view from a different perspective, those things can have a serious effect on our feelings. In the early years of our marriage, I thought (and felt) with some frequency that my wife was grossly unfair to me, breaking all our agreements, forcing me to do things I really didn't want to do. But we both came from families in which husbands and wives had figured out how to overcome such things and move ahead together. None of this was conscious, but we took advantage of it and stayed together. And in the end obtained so much insight about ourselves and each other that staying together wasn't so bad. Is this something you could do?
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So I can relate to the dance and the love and the friendship and belonging together too. I am doing my best too Ygrec. I am changing every day too. I think I can relate to the need for space that you have, even if I don't have your diagnosis. Open Eyes
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Diagnoses! Sometimes I think they're the worst thing in the world. I do frankly believe that people can and do get fixated on diagnoses, permitting diagnoses to rule their whole lives, preventing them from changing themselves as much as they in reality can. And I do believe strongly that psychologists and psychiatrists, or at least many of them, share my views and put off as far as they can any definitive diagnoses to be disclosed to patients themselves. More people are more fluid than they'd like to believe. I think fluidity, the capacity to change and be different, the real possibility of moving on and transforming one's-self is threatening and scary. Which is a terrible, terrible shame and a loss, a very great loss to all concerned. And diagnoses make "not changing" a whole lot easier and more attractive.
Take care, Open Eyes, take care and be well. Ygrec
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