http://forums.psychcentral.com/showt...30#post2349130for me, I think it's because the voice - as luc e calls it in this thread, the negative introject - is stronger and louder than my T's positive voice, which BTW I am finally starting to be able to hear. but it required going no-contact. But now I am starting to hear a wise caring loving voice that LIKES for me to take care of myself and be a brave girl and will hug me and still contain me and love me when I do - not me all jealous and angry and depressed and spit out, "well YOU don't need me anymore, get out of here now!" quicksand IS a good description - because the more you move, the faster you sink. you have to stay perfectly still to survive - omg that is SO me (and also a scene from The Rifleman!). The schema article Perna pulled about limited re-parenting also applies here - kinda bad cop, good cop!