
May 11, 2012, 08:31 PM
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I found an interesting article here.
Twelve Dating Red Flags Not to Ignore.
Seems to be aimed at women. All examples are "he," but certainly "she" would be equally capable of these things, so I'm going to chop the pronouns off entirely. I do not agree that all of them are necessarily red flags.
Summary follows. Red flag items are theirs, commentary is mine.
1. Tries to get fresh with you on the first date.
--- We've covered that here already, but I want to point out, it isn't necessarily the man making unwanted sexual advances at the woman. I knew a woman who, the minute a man shows the slightest interest in maybe dating her, latches on to him like a leech, acts as if they are already an exclusive item when they haven't even officially gone on a date yet, and talks to her friends about nothing but him, him, him, him, him. In this case, he's the one who should run. Far.
2. Never has time for you.
--- Well, he has to make a living. My husband has been working a lot of overtime lately, but that's because we're buried under medical bills. And then he's got to unwind when he comes home from work. Maybe it will ease up when I start working, and he won't have to do so much. Although it sucks, it's a fact of life, and it's not his fault. Yes, workaholism can be a problem, but a lot of overtime doesn't necessarily mean workaholism.
3. Only calls when drunk.
--- Yep. Been there, done that. Can't argue with this one. Although I might add, in my case it was "only calls when he's drunk AND wants some tail." Other than tail, I had no function in the relationship. There was no walking in the park, going to see a movie, or any real time spent together that didn't involve tail.
4. Phone is always ringing.
--- Supposedly the person will pull the "it's my boss, gotta go" line, and the article says he's probably telling the other woman the same thing when you call. The red flag here is if he grabs the phone before you can see the caller ID, or takes it in another room.
5. Doesn't fight fair.
--- Sulks, guilt-trips, brings up the past. I agree that "doesn't fight fair" is wrong, but I'm not sure that showing the hurt you feel, necessarily makes a guilt trip. Bringing up the past, I do that myself, not as much as I used to, but I'll guarantee that if something has hurt me, a sincere apology will ensure I'll never bring it up again.
6. Doesn't make an effort.
--- Doesn't remember your birthday, compliment you, or do little things for you. I guess it's even worse if your partner demands that from you, but doesn't give it back. The article also mentions sex, and I've had experience with a man who thought sex was for his pleasure only, didn't care if I enjoyed it or not. I might as well have been a rubber blowup doll. Yes, same guy from #3 who only called when he was drunk.
7. Leaves 17 voice messages in an hour.
--- No excuse for that, even if someone is on their deathbed.
8. Has never had a long term relationship.
--- Well, I have to say that would depend on a lot of things, such as age, for one. But yeah, if at 40 or so, someone has never had a relationship last a whole year, well then they're not going to start with you, sorry. Article says "commitment-phobe." I say, probably too picky. If the person says, "I just haven't found the right one yet," chances are there is no "right one," because that person will find fault with everybody.
9. Is depressed all the time.
--- Here is where I've got to take exception. Obviously the article writer knows nothing about depression as an illness, which is more than what the article calls "only focused on the negativity." They paint a person with depression as always complaining about something, nothing ever makes them happy, and it won't be long before they're complaining about you too. If that's the way it is, that person needs help. Instead of judging, point them to the places they can get it. Should you date that person? Well, it's possible they're not ready to date yet. But you can certainly be their friend. By this I don't mean giving them the "let's just be friends" speech, but actually being their friend.
10. Thinks he/she is God's gift to the opposite sex.
--- Not a whole lot of experience with this one.
11. Criticizes you all the time.
--- Funny about this one, my first husband found a minimum (not an average, but a minimum) of three things wrong with every meal I ever put in front of him. And he didn't even recognize it as criticism. Similar to Dr. Paul Olliger's story in the AA Big Book, where he says, "I was always able to see the flaw in every person, in every situation. And I was always glad to point it out, because I knew you wanted perfection, just as I did." (From the personal story, "Acceptance Was the Answer.") My ex was like that. He thought it was only called "criticism" if it wasn't true, but if the eggs really were too dry, or I really did miss a spot when I was cleaning up, he was doing me a favor by telling me. The thing is, I'm not all that bad with domestic skills. Other people haven't found my cooking so repulsive, or my cleaning so lax.
12. Your friends can't stand him/her.
--- Not necessarily. To hear my family of origin talk, hubby Mike has turned me against them, and is a snob who thinks he's better than they are. The reality is, he rescued me from the bad situation they were trying to keep me trapped in. They are dysfunctional, while Mike's lifestyle is healthy. And they resent the snot out of it. However, family and friends can be right. If you catch yourself saying, "But you just don't understand him like I do" too often, think about it.
Last edited by Anonymous32457; May 11, 2012 at 09:46 PM.
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