George are you HPD? I was only asking cause you seem to be in this forum alot, but what do i know, lol, you could be in other forums to, I am not the :typical" HPD, I was abused as a child, raped, beaten, as well as had no parnets to protect me! My Hpd as well as ASPD featuers can be scary as well as unerving...BUT in that, I know the first step to recovery is , admitting youve got a problem, going to thereapy, and then the hardest changing, Some of the post I have made I klnow dont win me brownie point, bu then again Im not here to do that lol, Im here to be and to fix me, most people who do know me and my past, really do undertsand why I have what I have, again as summeryoga sadi before, many of us were abused and or hurt really bad, but Im getting recovery and I feel better all ready, recovery is the key!!! Thanks Geroge H, and summeryoga, and Other HPD, and PINk MIst, were keeping this forum ALIVE!!! You guys are great!!!