Thank you all for your support and advice. Mike I find it extremely hard to motivate myself to read things but I did manage to read your story and it was a very good depiction of what you talked about in your post so good job. It was very clever putting it into story form. I am going to try to listen to all of your advice and comments but I am not promising that I will be able to use them all or agree with them all. Anyway thank you.