Wow, all these posts in only one day! I was out, so I'm catching up late.

As I understand, the attempt to lure a child itself is a crime. Those of you who stated that are correct. I've already stated that I don't support pedophiles and that I believe they need to be put away from the public.

I do believe pedophilia is a mental illness. It's a sexual desire, one that hurts others. As for the person who said if a pedophile wanted help, he would seek it (I just went through four pages of posts, so please forgive me if I don't remember everyone who said what), that's not likely true. For one thing, psychiatrists and psychiatrists have to report anyone who tells them they seek to harm a child (if I'm not mistaken), so a pedophile may want help, but be afraid to "come out" to the police and possibly the public. I'm NOT saying pedos shouldn't be reported; just saying this is why they aren't likely to seek help. The other thing is, years ago, Dear Abby received a letter from a man who said he had these desires, and wanted her help. She called the police, and he was arrested. However, he thanked her, because he got some help (but I don't know if he's under control, if it's at all possible, or what now).

Pedophiles usually don't seek to harm children. They believe they're showing love to a child and that sex with children is healthy. Furthermore, they think children want sex. I've heard pedophiles say of a little girl, that she's flirting with him, when all she's doing is playing and smiling. Their minds are twisted. That they think they're showing love and say the things they do to a child, is extremely damaging and confusing to a child in ways I don't have to tell anyone here.

Predators, on the other hand, seek to harm. They intentionally seek victims.

If we're ever going to be able to identify and maybe even cure a person dangerous to children before they commit harm, we need to understand the difference.

As for your research content (that I'm sure you asked permission for before copying and pasting it to these boards), _Sky, that shows porn makes rapists, I can give you just as much research and more to show it doesn't. I don't have time tonight because I've got to get to bed in a bit, but if you want it, just ask. Rape and sex crimes are lower in more open societies.

I look at porn, and I don't rape. I know plenty of people who view and even create porn, who have no sex criminal history. I can show you a history of people who use the Bible to commit crimes and perform heinous acts, though. And numbers and statistics can be manipulated to support any view for any thing. You can get two different answers to the same question from one person, based on how you word the question each time.