Hellion
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I mean I get that numb feeling and then things feel pointless and I say 'f**** it.'
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i do that a lot with different sorts of situations and emotions.... I try to remind myself-- as you mention-- **** IT!! does not really solve things with some situations... Unless of course I am "letting go of something that needs to be let go of".. which then it is rationalized in my twisted head to make it more positive than the **** it.
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I mean I hate feeling so weak, when I get a rush of energy from getting set off as terrible as it is.....
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I am not fully following this one- partially am I think-
I can feel weak when i feel like I am losing or taring apart with conflict with things: "emotions" i suppose you could call them

-- Also with thoughts- I.e. Right now with my issues i am at times confused with what is "right" or "wrong" or if both are grey and none are to the extreme. I get told to remind myself to not really take the outsiders in-- to listen to my heart, my logical side, and what does that tell me... don't get so down and out basically if others' disagree.
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sometimes I just want to give into it instead of trying to hold back. I mean its like I am just drifting into a very dark place mentally and walling up the exit which only further isolates me and makes it hard to even see anything worth really holding onto.
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I can get to a point with myself with-- I will always be a messed up person due to my past, due to all the things, There is no "cure" for someone like me...... I get this way from time to time- I am not sure if this is like your giving in and isolation- but it does isolate me and I begin to put up walls.. It is negative-- I have trouble at times getting out of this, but some how some thing in me says- Ya know- I am trying, I am not as worse as some people in my past, I am in ways smarter than others in my past as well.... And i can flip to the side of those mother****ers that ****ed me over have ****ed over my life!! Lot of anger-- but ya know it is important to know-- anger is not bad- I have to tell myself that constantly-- anger is an emotion, and yeah what does it mean is what it is to figure out-- validation, lack of caring, etc.... I am still working on things, but I hope one day to have more clarity.
That third tid bit on me can relate to your thinking of it is already too late as well--
Ya know-A part of me thinks: I don't think it is ever too late as long as with in some time things are realized and worked on- I don't mean to once again use my father as an example (have a few time here recently in other threads)- he is product of a lot of my pain coupled with much more other things; HOWEVER-- I saw as I got older and he got older he did grow--- at least there was one day he granted permission to have emotions... In his 60's he told me that he saw so much of him in me, and that he wished that I would be able to talk more and get my emotions out rather then keeping them all to myself, as he did...... He wished me to be better.... I try, it is a struggle-- I can get despaired with it all as well; but some times all we can do is try... that is what I tell me...
I am sorry if that is not helpful but it is worth a shot- I some times feel I am an odd ball with things so I can understand if i missed the whole picture. But at any rate hugsto you

It may be a struggle but ya know- perhaps hope is what keeps us going with getting better, and the trying and seeing progress as time goes by helps with that hope to keep alive.. maybe? I know at times I can lose hope, I can refuse to see the progress or feel like reverting- none the less- ya get back up to try again I think due to many are strong to- even though at times we may believe we are weak.. I am sorry if I sound contradicting but I can be a tetor totter

with which side am I on with what I think or feel....
Bohogyspy--- I like the idea with channeling that energy--
Ya know I keep getting told- go out for run if I feel annoyed that is about to come to anger- OR get up and do something-- Clean the house and all-- Some times i feel though that this is ignoring the problems but perhaps it is channel the energy to distract to come back to something that is overwhelming in my case.
I like to do crafts to be honest when I am not feeling so despaired, it is creating something and usually is pretty

Yeah i can be my worst critic but it is still nice....