I, also, am an outsider in this, but can empathize I think because I "got it" years ago.

I could have taken the devil's advocate on this, also... but why should the devil have an advocate in the first place!

But ... just in case.... what if? What if one of our members here were an abuser at one time?...what if it is a mental disorder that noone's working on a medicine or cure for?... what if it's connected to head trauma?....

I refer to Dershowitz' book, " The Abuse Excuse. " For when someone has been abused (such as a former generation where nothing was known or talked about) and carries on that abuse as a way of life they only know... not knowing why they would do that... sigh...

The group is coming across as quite adamantly insensitive. I choose to express that while we all acknowledge an abuser is a human being... they have to be stopped... until those what ifs are answered... we really are caring about people...but safety comes first. Right?