adamantly realistic is how i see the group. the majority of the group here weren't safe. there is a feeling to that that is unlike any other. you have to experience it to feel it.

if there is an abuser here, i hope that help has been sought. the Dateline series is about the prevention of someone being abused. and that is what we've been discussing 90% of the time.

sorry, Sky, i don't feel adamantly insensitive. p