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Old Jun 11, 2012, 08:12 AM
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Lynn, I don't understand your resistance to a mental health evaluation of these horrific types of acts. How would that be an insult to others dx'ed with a mental illness? You may elect to only stick up for the kind law abiding mentally ill members of this site..... providing you can distinguish those among us..... but there will still be many many others mentally ill who are not so kind or law abiding as you would imagine them to be.

Don't be naive Lynn. You have no idea who you are meeting up with on this site and what any of us might be capable of or guilty of when we are not playing nice on PC. The only criteria to keep one out of the mentally ill club is to be mentally well. Off the charts evil acts put you in the club automatically from where I look.

Mental illness must factor into judicial sentencing. That does not necessarily equate to a lighter or easier sentence. It means appropriate sentencing. Just as in the case of the Greyhound story. He was sentenced and confined to an appropriate facility with the appropriate treatment and the appropriate protections in place. That is all our system of justice can do.

I am sorry for the pain you are suffering because of these kinds of stories. It is heartbreaking to even try to imagine how the families feel. It would be nice to imagine that somehow 'rules of etiquette' would prevent the exploitation of suffering but it doesn't seem possible. It can be as innocent as a 'tag' on a picture one posts up on facebook. Etiquette would suggest permission should be granted but few if any bother to ask a friends permission. If we, the general population, will violate our friends privacy without a thought then how could we imagine a world that would respect anyone's privacy be them friend, family, stranger or foe?

It seems to me that with world wide publication of anything possible, all we can do is be our own filter and stay away from spaces that will violate our individual sensitivities.
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Lynn, I don't understand your resistance to a mental health evaluation of these horrific types of acts. How would that be an insult to others dx'ed with a mental illness?
The main reason I initially said I wouldn't classify his actions to be mentally ill is - I get frustrated that every horrific crime has to be labeled mentally ill. Can't a person commit a horrific act and not be labeled mentally ill?? Yes I do think there's a stigma and some mentally ill people do get insulted when people jump to conclusions to explain a terrible crime. I'm very sure his lawyers will use the mental illness defense to the max. That's another pet peeve - so many times lawyers use mental illness to explain murders because they don't want to admit someone might be an awful person. Are all evil acts due to mental illness?

This case isn't similar to the other case of beheading on a Greyhound bus - that man had Schizophrenia. Magnotta has be planning this for years and even bragged how to disappear afterwards. He planned it out and directed his own video. He was lucid enough to mail out body parts and then escape the country.

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Don't be naive Lynn. You have no idea who you are meeting up with on this site and what any of us might be capable of or guilty of when we are not playing nice on PC.
I used to be naive when I was 18 but not anymore. Yes I do realize a person has to be careful with anyone online and true I don't know what people do when they're not online.

I honestly don't care if he is mentally ill - I was just so repulsed that I felt bad lumping him with other mentally ill people. I realize there are some dangerous mentally ill people. I wonder about this question - are all prisoners mentally ill and when is a person just bad and not mentally ill? Can a person be evil and not mentally ill? Every photo he took of himself...there's the same mean eyes. The other thread is more for discussing details and I think this thread focuses on that gory website ...why sites like this are allowed etc.
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