I'm going to respond to the things said to me, even if off-topic, so I get my answers out. After that, if I still want to say anything off-topic, I
will start another thread.
I'm going to start by stating some facts:
1) I think all molesters and rapists should be put away for good the first time they are caught.
2) I don't think victims ever get completely over it.
3) I don't think pedophiles and predators can be cured.
4) I think Dateline is doing a great thing.
5) I'm open to being proven wrong.
Now, responses:
fayerody said:
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i would also like to comment upon your statement about "airlines always seating small children by women" instead of men.....has it occurred to you that it could be because women are considered to naturally be more nurturing than men? or that it could be that there is some notion, by the airlines, that more men, than women, travel for business and thus they would be less inclined to pay attention to a small child seated beside them? that dog won't hunt.......in my book.
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I wasn't stating an opinion. I was stating what I've read and others have also read and stated to me. Here are some related links (you can find more if you Google for them):
PHXnews.com
Political Animal discussion
Reverse Discrimination
Airlines Say "No" to Men Sitting Next to Unaccompanied Minors
Hey, Buddy, Move It
radio_flyer said:
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And I come back and folks are so they say "not defending" predators, but they really are with all the ifs and what nots.... Starting to make my skin crawl
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Well, I guess your skin's going to keep crawling, because asking questions is not defending predators. My belief that they should be forever punished (including torture), is based on their destruction of another's life. I'm not going to explain it again, because you're not understanding what I'm saying.
And, let me assure you, I'm not afraid to say what I mean. If I felt predators and pedophiles deserved little or no punishment, or even a long, but temporary, punishment, I'd say so. I'm not afraid of your opinions if I thought that. If I felt that way, I'd say so. I don't, so if you still think I do, re-read the numbered statements at the beginning of this post, and if you still don't believe me, then c'est la vie.
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Then using mental illness as an excuse for doing crimes against other people..
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I never said mental illness is an excuse to commit crimes. If a person is dangerous, they need to be put either in jail or in a mental institution.
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now this.. a sleep walking sex offender.. Makes you think that an erection is a "mindless" thing... that men don't need a brain for one...
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Sleep-sexing, not sleepwalking and having sex. This is a real occurrence. Google it. You'll find a lot of information. I had a boyfriend who did this. And the real danger is when they sleep with children in the room. I'm not saying there aren't sleepwalking sex offenders, but what I know of sleepsexing, it's done without the sleeper getting up and leaving his bed.
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Bottom line is...... when ever a person violates another person, being molesting, rape, murder, whatever, they deserve plenty of time in jail....period.......
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And when did I say otherwise?
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I will say it for the last time! You have NOT been sexually violated so you DON'T KNOW what it's like! Stop trying to convince us that you do!
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I DID NOT say I know what it's like! I'm NOT trying to convince you otherwise! So, stop accusing me of such!
fayerody said:
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i will admit that it is starting to creep me out. i was just getting irrirtated .about .. what i shall call, "the violator defense program".
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I'm not defending anyone. However, if a person has been accused but hasn't proven to be a sex offender, and I have no reason to believe s/he is, then I will wait till I see/hear evidence before judging him/her to be. I believe everyone deserves a fair trial. Once a person is proven to be a rapist or molester, then I'll be the first in line to shave his skin off.
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p.s. maven, every little bit of information that is exchanged here validates something somewhere in every survivor. it might just be one sentence or it might be an entire post.
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Yes, blind hatred. You want so badly to believe I'm defending pedophiles and predators, so you can hate me, too, and express the anger and hatred you feel. You feel your hate is validated because you hate anyone with an open mind when it comes to her own beliefs, being willing to consider other things, being willing to find out she's wrong. You want to see me either black or white, defending the predators or defending the victims. You refuse to see that I
do defend the victims, but I'm also for learning more about predators and pedophiles, in the hopes of stopping them in the future.
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i hope that this information explains better to you, why we don't want the "what if" program that you're selling.
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You make it sound like I'm a snake-oil salesman. I am not trying to
sell you anything. I'm not even asking you to consider my opinion. I'm asking for my own, personal beliefs. I ask, "What if?" of myself all the time, so I am firm in my beliefs and I'm less-likely to be surprised by information I didn't see coming. I like to be prepared. I'm a writer. It's in my nature to ask, "What if?"
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fayerody, i know . . . you've expressed yourself very well. I agree with you that Psych Central should not be an advocate (or devil's advocate) or support group for the criminals (child sex offenders, as illustrated on the Dateline's Predator series).
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So, people who commit crimes are not welcome here? I know at least one member who's stated that she's spent time in jail. Do you mean any criminals, or just violent criminals? Which would mean people with anger issues aren't welcome here if they've been violent.
Feel free to reply in a new thread, or privately, if you don't want to continue this in this thread. I was under the impression all people who wanted help were welcome here. Thank you for clearing that up.
As for the topic at hand, I did see the update show a couple of nights ago. I don't have much to say about it at this time, but if anyone has anything to say about it, I'm happy to comment if I have anything to say afterwards.