I think we're talking about apples and oranges here. But I've got nothing to do today, so I'll bite.
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By everyone else's standards? We are responsible. It's confining, annoying, & unnecessary but I grapple to pretend I understand it.
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Either you understand it or you don't. There are no grey areas there. You may no want to accept it, but that doesn't exclude you that if you intend to live in a society full of whatever you may want to label it, you must follow rules in order to live together.
And in my most absolute and biased corner I have not just survived a psychopath, but I have heard about this endlessly from psychiatrists, psychologists, two different law firms, an entire police department (who happened to be very repetitive and blunt) and different specialist in the matter due to it was part of my "tortured path into healing" from my psychiatrist. The one that was recommended to me by my attorney. So maybe it's just me? or maybe I'm just brainwashed on the topic by everyone else. Who knows.
So call it what you will, but yeah. I think I may believe everyone needs to be accountable for what they do, regardless of their label, mental condition or social status.
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But truthfully? Someone with bipolar is more likely to physically injure someone in a mixed mood fit than a sociopath would on a regular day, but that is just my presumption.
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Someone bipolar does experience mood swings yet according to the nerdy guys who happened to spend a lifetime making money out of labeling things, the whole "experiencing feelings" part makes it as day and night in whether who would be most likely to act upon a situation like that, but I guess everyone is entitled to think whatever they must.
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People are inconsequential, yet everyone is under the flawed impression we spend every waking moment, stalking like lions until we find a victim...
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To psychopaths there is not such word as victims, so this is the part where I truly understood we're talking about different things here.
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Anyone who may get caught in the crossfire is mere happenstance. And if someone didn't want to live a long life at the hands of the legal system? Like pretty much all of us in our right minds? We find the best possible margin between satiating whatever need (money, sex, etc) & that harms the other person as little as possible, objectively.
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I want to move there. Sounds nice.
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How else are we supposed to stay under the radar? If we all just "came out" in such a blatant fashion, no one would be huddled in a corner, afraid of becoming a victim. There wouldn't need to be websites for victims because they could just be avoided. Not all of us are Ted Bundy or whatever stereotype you people have in your heads. Same general premise, as it IS limited to diagnostic features, but we don't cease to be individuals based on a simple personality defect.
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I'm sorry you consider a diagnosis a personality defect. That sounds rare for someone with psychopath traits to even consider that. I'd say it just makes you different, clearly with much more awareness of your health in particular. That's the way I'd see it.
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I understand your cynicism, but you can't simply generalise an entire group of people because there have been bad experiences.
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Sorry, but I fail to see how we are reaching any sort of understanding here. I am just giving you text book and you fight it like I just made it up, well sorry, that is not the case.
Not sure if it's that I can't make myself clear enough or that this is a touchy subject it seems? Either way, I will just agree to disagree with you because I can only put together so much energy at all these days.
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No one has bothered to compile a list of antisocials/psychopaths that have made positive contributions to the world. So you're not the only cynic. You're just following society &, as someone who fits there, I can't blame you for that decision.
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Having traits of such doesn't make someone one. But it is rather obvious that if this antisocial cares this much about society or what it thinks of one, this person is by far, the most unique antisocial there is. Truly special.
And thank you for saying I fit into society, very sweet of you. I've paid quite the amount of money to be taught how to mimic normalcy once again. Good it's finally giving results
