Thread: Studying Law?
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Old Jun 23, 2012, 04:03 PM
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I've been thinking quite a lot lately about studying Law at university (when I get my education back on track). I've always had an interest in it, particularly in the areas of mental health and criminal law, but here in the UK it's a very competitive degree course to get onto at a half decent university and I've always been put off by the "money hungry lawyer" image and my mum put me off it when I was talking about it saying that I don't have the personality to be any kind of solicitor/barrister, which is true, I'm definitely not assertive and my grades throughout school including my GCSEs were just average, Bs and Cs mostly (school was a tough time for me), though I left school three years ago.
OK, so first things first:
The name on your degree will matter less if you want to be a solicitor and you don't want to go to the Magic Circle (the top commercial firms in the UK -- Slaughers, Freshfields, Linklaters, Allen and Overy, and Clifford Chance). Outside the top commercial firms, it matters more that you get good grades and good recommendations from your professors, and that you've done things other than study for your degree (volunteering, societies, etc.)
It's (mostly) true that if you want to go to the Bar, you'll need an Oxbridge degree (and probably a master's from an Ivy League uni). Next best degrees are from the LSE, King's and UCL. I've decided to become a commercial barrister, though, so I'm probably very biassed on the whole thing.

If you want to work in criminal or mental health law, however, the Bar is much more open to you -- they'd rather see good grades and community involvement from a decent uni than see just the name on your degree. Also, if you want to work in mental health law after you train, then don't discount your experiences with mental illness as a means of getting to uni even if your A-level grades weren't so good -- and especially if they were a long time ago.

And don't worry about the money hungry lawyer image! It's only like that if you go into commercial law; rest assured that you'll live a life of near-penury if you decided to do the kind of work -- criminal, family and mental health -- that is financed mostly through legal aid.

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I don't think I want/know if I want to be in the mainstream legal profession, but I want to study the degree course, if that makes sense.
Law is a good degree to have even if you don't want to be a lawyer! Conversely, you can study ANY degree at uni, and then convert your degree to law afterwards on the Graduate Diploma in Law (GDL). Sometimes it's possible to get hired by a firm of solicitors or selected for pupillage by a barrister's chambers and they will pay for the GDL and your LPC (Legal practice course -- for solicitors) or BPC (Bar Professional Course).

The law is kind of an obscure profession I can explain more the routes into becoming a solicitor or a barrister, if you're interested. Just remember that people with law degrees do almost any job you can imagine; I have former classmates who did everything from becoming magicians (seriously) to investment banking to journalism to organising the occupy protests.

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Does anyone have any advice for me? About getting in the door at least if not any career suggestions. I've been thinking of maybe resitting my GCSEs privately and then doing a Social Sciences Access to HE course and maybe try to get some voluntary work along the way. Or should I just stick to my original plan of going into the biological sciences since it's a long shot?
Definitely do voluntary work; it'll be good on your CV no matter what degree and career you want and it looks fabulous on your UCAS statements. It may be possible (depending on where you are in the country -- most lawyers are in London) to observe barristers or solicitors at work for a day or two; you can check on their websites for more information. Also, MIND run legal advice and advocacy services that are always looking for volunteers and that would look fabulous on the CV of an aspiring lawyer.
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