Well, I have no question that criminals should go to prison, or somewhere where they can't harm society further. Unfortunately prison in this country is generally not a good place for making things better for anyone in the long run, as far as I can see.

The kind of discussion I was engaging in may not be appropriate for this forum. I did not post this thread here; it was moved from elsewhere. Maybe there is not a good place on Psych Central for the kind of analytic thinking I tend to like.