Very good idea Genetic and Trippin - and spot on with what his T has been saying. She started a group with 4 teen boys she had, but it only lasted 2 sessions because my and another boy decided to screw their moms waiting outside to pick them off and go off skateboarding and get high!. Sooo... no more of that group.
We're trying to get him into AA or NA with a no go so far. It's been baby steps, and 2 steps forward, 1 step back. Now that he's on probation, I think there will be some services available. I can actually ask the P.O. to make group therapy a stipulation of the probation. Thank you so much for your support!! God (higher power, etc., fill in your own word) knows I need it!!