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wi_fighter said:
I know all of this, really I do.

I shouldn't have even said anything.

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Knowing all of this is one thing...........but putting in consistent, effective measures to stop their irresponsible behavior is another.

Kids are kids, trust me I have 4, they will test the limits and they don't perceive their behavior as selfish. It is our job to help them grow into responsible, caring adults......and it is not easy sometimes.

Try having a family meeting..... maybe a "make your own sundae night" and discuss what is bothering you. Tell them what things have to change and ask them for ideas as to how to make it happen.

Sometimes tough love is in order, so don't back down!! You, and believe me THEY, will appreciate it in the long run.

Take care and let us know how its going.......